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<rss xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title>Laughing Squid - Latest Comments in http://laughingsquid.com/trojan-nuclear-power-plant-demolition/</title><link>http://laughingsquid.disqus.com/</link><description>a resource for art, culture and technology</description><atom:link href="https://laughingsquid.disqus.com/thread_6850/latest.rss" rel="self"></atom:link><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 10:11:48 -0000</lastBuildDate><item><title>Re: http://laughingsquid.com/trojan-nuclear-power-plant-demolition/</title><link>http://laughingsquid.com/trojan-nuclear-power-plant-demolition/#comment-3021921</link><description>&lt;p&gt;What exactly is a safety implosion on a nuclear plant? I am sorry but I find it hard to believe that there is anything safe about that. How could they  actually remove the asbestos even before the demolition? This article about asbestos got me really scared, I can't help being skeptical about any demolition.&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.articlesbase.com/cancer-articles/treatment-options-for-mesothelioma-511528.html" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="http://www.articlesbase.com/cancer-articles/treatment-options-for-mesothelioma-511528.html"&gt;http://www.articlesbase.com...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">kim</dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 10:11:48 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: http://laughingsquid.com/trojan-nuclear-power-plant-demolition/</title><link>http://laughingsquid.com/trojan-nuclear-power-plant-demolition/#comment-1805931</link><description>&lt;p&gt;"Did you see the map of the security area? Doesnâ€™t it seem excessively large for a mere demolition?"&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;No. If you watch the videos on Youtube of the demolition you'll clearly see concrete chunks flew for a LONG distance.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;"All live spectators have been banned for a 10 mile radius. You will only be able to see this on TV, which means that it will be thoroughly controlled and that there is something going on that they donâ€™t want you to see."&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Dude, do you even LIVE in Oregon? Blow it out your ass.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Ryan Thompson</dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 05:01:18 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: http://laughingsquid.com/trojan-nuclear-power-plant-demolition/</title><link>http://laughingsquid.com/trojan-nuclear-power-plant-demolition/#comment-1805930</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Can I have this photo because I want this photo for my poster on global warming &lt;a href="http://laughingsquid.com/wp-content/uploads/trojan_nuke.jpg" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="http://laughingsquid.com/wp-content/uploads/trojan_nuke.jpg"&gt;http://laughingsquid.com/wp...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Samuel</dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 19:29:37 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: http://laughingsquid.com/trojan-nuclear-power-plant-demolition/</title><link>http://laughingsquid.com/trojan-nuclear-power-plant-demolition/#comment-1805929</link><description>&lt;p&gt;kool dood&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">steven</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2007 05:39:12 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: http://laughingsquid.com/trojan-nuclear-power-plant-demolition/</title><link>http://laughingsquid.com/trojan-nuclear-power-plant-demolition/#comment-1805928</link><description>&lt;p&gt;gb i was sitting on the same hill as you. just up the power lines. and yeah i think somebody was smoking a little crack. check out my site &lt;a href="http://www.outtakingphotos.com" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="www.outtakingphotos.com"&gt;www.outtakingphotos.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">srp</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2006 19:10:35 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: http://laughingsquid.com/trojan-nuclear-power-plant-demolition/</title><link>http://laughingsquid.com/trojan-nuclear-power-plant-demolition/#comment-1805927</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Whoever wrote that aircraft garbage is taking drugs.&lt;br&gt;We were about a thousand feet up on the hill directly behind it with our cameras and took a 5 frame per second of the entire event.&lt;br&gt;Nothing unusualy there at all. Just an every day common demolition of a structure. We even captured the sequence of the charge flashes as they went off. &lt;br&gt;....Aircraft into the structure writer... you need some strong coffee !!&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">GB</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 30 May 2006 02:21:03 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: http://laughingsquid.com/trojan-nuclear-power-plant-demolition/</title><link>http://laughingsquid.com/trojan-nuclear-power-plant-demolition/#comment-1805926</link><description>&lt;p&gt;check out my myspace it rocks its alll about the trojan nuclear power plant comment me to and add me as ur frnd! i luv the trojan nuclear power plant so search "carissa vachter" in myspace to find my awesum trojan nuclear power plant myspace&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">carissa vachter</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 30 May 2006 01:35:48 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: http://laughingsquid.com/trojan-nuclear-power-plant-demolition/</title><link>http://laughingsquid.com/trojan-nuclear-power-plant-demolition/#comment-1805925</link><description>&lt;p&gt;another video link:&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href="http://grouper.com/GlobalMedia/MediaDetails.aspx?id=863324" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="http://grouper.com/GlobalMedia/MediaDetails.aspx?id=863324"&gt;http://grouper.com/GlobalMe...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">eR1c</dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 20:10:33 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: http://laughingsquid.com/trojan-nuclear-power-plant-demolition/</title><link>http://laughingsquid.com/trojan-nuclear-power-plant-demolition/#comment-1805924</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Those who fought Trojan for years have a Website that tells its history and provides links, photos and video.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Visit it at &lt;a href="http://www.TrojanDown.com" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="http://www.TrojanDown.com"&gt;http://www.TrojanDown.com&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Ernie</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 23 May 2006 14:53:55 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: http://laughingsquid.com/trojan-nuclear-power-plant-demolition/</title><link>http://laughingsquid.com/trojan-nuclear-power-plant-demolition/#comment-1805923</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Just witness the implosion live!!!&lt;br&gt;Every angle of that tower was being witness by over 3000 eyes so the whole weapons training is someones overactive imagination....&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;-Residents living in hills behind the tower (Including live television)&lt;br&gt;-Rvs, tents, and people cover the east and west in kalama (Including live      television)&lt;br&gt;-Docks, platforms, me, and boats no more than one mile away were viewing the tower up front (Including live television)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Sorry no military conspiracy&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If you like an awsome video clip of over 8 diffrent camera angle (Including an inside view) then right-click and save as below:&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.portlandgeneral.com/about_pge/current_issues/trojan/Cooling-twr.wmv" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="http://www.portlandgeneral.com/about_pge/current_issues/trojan/Cooling-twr.wmv"&gt;http://www.portlandgeneral....&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">ME</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 23 May 2006 14:47:10 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: http://laughingsquid.com/trojan-nuclear-power-plant-demolition/</title><link>http://laughingsquid.com/trojan-nuclear-power-plant-demolition/#comment-1805922</link><description>&lt;p&gt;New Flanders when was the last time a coleman lantern or a smoke detector had a meltdown and polluted everything in a 50 mile radius? You are the one who should be a poster child for birth-control.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Justice_League</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 23 May 2006 08:08:55 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: http://laughingsquid.com/trojan-nuclear-power-plant-demolition/</title><link>http://laughingsquid.com/trojan-nuclear-power-plant-demolition/#comment-1805921</link><description>&lt;p&gt;hi i love the trojan nuclear power plant it rocks...its big nd trojanish&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">bridget</dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 17:39:41 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: http://laughingsquid.com/trojan-nuclear-power-plant-demolition/</title><link>http://laughingsquid.com/trojan-nuclear-power-plant-demolition/#comment-1805920</link><description>&lt;p&gt;People like Yellowbird could be poster children for birth control.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Just about everything has a minute about of radioactivity. To say there wouldn't be any in the dust is playing safe for conspiracy whackos like hium/her/. Do you go camping, dear hippies? Those Coleman lanterns emit radioactivity. So do smoke alarms. People that worked at Trojan weren't exposed to radioactivity that didn't already exsist in everyday items.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;An atom that emitted radioactivity, something they check for when workers (under seven layers of clothing) was called a "flea" because of it's size.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;They had to change the name of them because people like Yellowbird were worried animals could be "bitten by those awful radioactive fleas!"&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">New Flanders</dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 14:09:22 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: http://laughingsquid.com/trojan-nuclear-power-plant-demolition/</title><link>http://laughingsquid.com/trojan-nuclear-power-plant-demolition/#comment-1805919</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Ranier, Oregon, eh?  Hmmm....perhaps a reference to Ranier Wolfcastle (aka McBaine)   Excellent...it's all falling into place.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Grooveman</dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 10:36:51 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: http://laughingsquid.com/trojan-nuclear-power-plant-demolition/</title><link>http://laughingsquid.com/trojan-nuclear-power-plant-demolition/#comment-1805918</link><description>&lt;p&gt;I also grew up in Rainier but no longer live in close proximity (I now live near a REAL radioactive mess in the NW).  &lt;br&gt;The only radioactivity in the cooling tower is the naturally occuring radioactive potassium in the concrete.  It could no easier be traced through the atmospshere than any other dust particles.  It is just too plentiful and long lived to use as a tracer.  &lt;br&gt;It always amazes me how some people can get so worked up about nuclear power.  Yes, it can be dangerous (although the nuclear industry is THE MOST regulated industry in this nation) but so is driving your car.&lt;br&gt;I imagine when they start dismantling the containment building that the radioactive waste will end up here.  The reactor has already been shipped up here.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Scott</dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 00:41:54 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: http://laughingsquid.com/trojan-nuclear-power-plant-demolition/</title><link>http://laughingsquid.com/trojan-nuclear-power-plant-demolition/#comment-1805917</link><description>&lt;p&gt;As someone that grew up in Rainier, Oregon I can tell you exactly what is going on/went on with Trojan.  The tower was imploded as part of the decommissioning process.  Both I5 and Hwy 30 were closed so as to prevent onlookers from being terrified at seeing a 500 foot tower collapse right in front of them.  With the thousands of people that travel down I5 on any given day, it would be impossible to inform all of them what was going to happen this morning (when the tower was imploded) so as a precaution, they closed both roads.  As for the toxicity of the dust, while it probably does contain low levels of radiation, it did contain vestiges of asbestos.  While PGE (the company that ownes Trojan) claims all traces of asbestos were removed from the tower several years ago, breathing any of dust could be extremely toxic.  Similar to the dust after the collapse of the World Trade Center towers.  That is why they had the implosion so early in the morning.  To minimize the on lookers.  Although that did not stop my family from getting up at 6:00 in the morning to go out and watch.  So that's the FYI.  No real conspiracy here.  Just a poorly build and now defunct nuclear plant in a tiny Oregon town ( Rainier has approx. 1,100 people) that is still trying to recover from it.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Sarah</dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 21 May 2006 23:04:36 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: http://laughingsquid.com/trojan-nuclear-power-plant-demolition/</title><link>http://laughingsquid.com/trojan-nuclear-power-plant-demolition/#comment-1805916</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Yes, I live ACROSS the river from it, literally.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I5, and the north side of the columbia river were both PACKED with people and boats.  Granted the police were in force for crowd control, and the Coast Guard and Sherrifs boats were patrolling the shipping lane.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Someone had a LITTLE exaduration going on.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Jonathan</dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 21 May 2006 20:36:42 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: http://laughingsquid.com/trojan-nuclear-power-plant-demolition/</title><link>http://laughingsquid.com/trojan-nuclear-power-plant-demolition/#comment-1805915</link><description>&lt;p&gt;The shutdown of Trojan was probably fraudulent in the first place. All other plants like Trojan are still operating successfully. Instead the Oregon customers of PGE/Enron are payng through the nose just to satisfy envirowhackos and nti-nuclear Oregon democrats who gleefully enabled the fiasco. If still operating trojan would be the cheapest electric power on the west coast.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Frank Rogan</dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 21 May 2006 19:21:53 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: http://laughingsquid.com/trojan-nuclear-power-plant-demolition/</title><link>http://laughingsquid.com/trojan-nuclear-power-plant-demolition/#comment-1805914</link><description>&lt;p&gt;They close I-5 and Hwy 30 so people don't stop and get hit by&lt;br&gt;other cars gawking at the implosion.  The implosion will be in&lt;br&gt;clear view of thousands camped on the east side of the Columbia&lt;br&gt;River.  If someone plans on crashing a fuel ladden plane into&lt;br&gt;it, I feel sorry for the workers and news media that have been&lt;br&gt;authorized to film near the tower.  Someone in a prior post was &lt;br&gt;obviously living a fantasy.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Randy</dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 20 May 2006 22:02:48 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: http://laughingsquid.com/trojan-nuclear-power-plant-demolition/</title><link>http://laughingsquid.com/trojan-nuclear-power-plant-demolition/#comment-1805913</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Safety exists as per employee comments, lives, proper testing safety regulations.  Try testing the areas around the heat-dispersing Trojan plant tower; safety is there.  The dispersing heat WARMS the area, where people want to live because of the WARMTH. Warmth disappears with the emplosions, replacing the expositions. Dangers?  Less great danger exemplified, due to progressed safety conditions.  Someone is demolishing everything that they think their "aunt owns."  New or old structures just disappear from sight.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Linda rae</dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 20 May 2006 20:32:33 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: http://laughingsquid.com/trojan-nuclear-power-plant-demolition/</title><link>http://laughingsquid.com/trojan-nuclear-power-plant-demolition/#comment-1805905</link><description>&lt;p&gt;T r o j a n   E X P O S I T I O N, NOT demolition.  &lt;br&gt;SEE:  second line at top of the web page upon which we are commenting.  WHO GAVE PERMISSION TO CHANGE TROJAN IN AN WAY?  The Department of Energy, the Environmental Protection Agency, White WestingHouse...Hanford, were they consulted, other than to remove from Trojan, carefully, that which makes things function to assist in massive ways upon the Earth's safety situations?  Family developed plants, as an excellent investment, excellent uses.   How many people working in the city-beneath-Trojan have you contacted in regards to their safety?  See: web page top:  Laughing Squid.     Comment:  kesgardholmerbrown,Lr&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Lr</dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 20 May 2006 20:21:35 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: http://laughingsquid.com/trojan-nuclear-power-plant-demolition/</title><link>http://laughingsquid.com/trojan-nuclear-power-plant-demolition/#comment-1805912</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Please take a moment and read this report.... it is most important:  I wish we had a tip like this on 9/10/01 !&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://portland.craigslist.org/vnn/161242368.html" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="http://portland.craigslist.org/vnn/161242368.html"&gt;http://portland.craigslist....&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The Real Story on Trojan Implosion&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;--------------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;br&gt;Reply to: &lt;br&gt;Date: 2006-05-15, 9:03PM PDT&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Did you see the map of the security area? Doesn't it seem excessively large for a mere demolition? When they take down 50 story buildings in a city, you can watch from across the street. So what's up here? I did some digging, and I don't have all pieces yet, but talking to some FAA types, a Homeland Security dude, a FEMA worker, and a Boeing employee, I think have the high points figured out.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This is not a routine demolition.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;It is a test of several emergency systems and at least one potential defense system. It has long been thought that terrorists will try to target nuclear reactors, not so much for the explosive potential (there isn't any), but to create an ecological disaster of radioactive contamination that will make Chernobyl look like a walk in the park. Homeland Security is especially curious as to how the details of such an attack would play out, so the Trojan Implosion is designed as a "simulation" of a nuclear power plant attack. There will be dynamite, but before that is triggered, a remote plane (not sure of the type, my Boeing leak would only say it is big and loaded with jetfuel) is going to crash into the tower ala 9/11. It will be coming in from a direction that will hide it from the TV cameras. My guess is on the northwest side. This part of the test will not only simulate the airplane hit, but will also demonstrate the capability of the remote aircraft, developed by Boeing, for military purposes.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;After it strikes, the dynamite will be triggered, the tower will fall, and a huge cloud of cement dust will be kicked up. It has often been reported in the media that tower has ** no ** radioactivity. When pressed for details, and measurement data, it turns out that the word "no" is being interpreted to mean that the level of radioactivity is very low - below legal limits - but not zero. There is enough residual radioactivity in the cement dust that it can tracked after the implosion. That is the third goal of the test - to see how the radioactivity will disperse. It is such a low level that it really does not present a health risk - if you work in a building with granite steps, you will get more radiation from the granite going to work next week than you would from Trojan dust. But the cloud will be trackable for at least 500 miles, depending on wind and atmosphere condition. Look 500 miles due east of Trojan and what do you see? Any major population centers? Any key industries? No, not really.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So for the purpose of a "almost live" simulation of an attack, this is a perfect setup. A decommisioned nuclear plant; the countries largest military aircraft maker just up the street; a low population density zone downwind for a 1000 miles; even the closest big city is a very minor one, so any inconvenience from the actual test or the aftermath won't really have a significant impact.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;All live spectators have been banned for a 10 mile radius. You will only be able to see this on TV, which means that it will be thoroughly controlled and that there is something going on that they don't want you to see.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Yellowbird</dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 20 May 2006 16:54:59 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: http://laughingsquid.com/trojan-nuclear-power-plant-demolition/</title><link>http://laughingsquid.com/trojan-nuclear-power-plant-demolition/#comment-1805911</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Huh. It seems that the control room in &lt;i&gt;The China Syndrome&lt;/i&gt; was based on the one at Trojan:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;"The model for the control room of the plant was based upon the control room at the Trojan Nuclear Power Plant in Rainier, Oregon (along the Columbia River). At the time, it was the only nuclear plant in the US to offer tours that included a tour of the gallery that looked down into the control room."&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078966/trivia" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078966/trivia"&gt;http://www.imdb.com/title/t...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Dan</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 18:40:09 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: http://laughingsquid.com/trojan-nuclear-power-plant-demolition/</title><link>http://laughingsquid.com/trojan-nuclear-power-plant-demolition/#comment-1805910</link><description>&lt;p&gt;nevermind, I read the article.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">AC</dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 15 May 2006 19:46:27 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: http://laughingsquid.com/trojan-nuclear-power-plant-demolition/</title><link>http://laughingsquid.com/trojan-nuclear-power-plant-demolition/#comment-1805909</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Any details on the implosion, like what time it's happening?  I read in friday's oregonian that only Hwy 30 was going to be closed.  I'd really like to watch if possible.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">AC</dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 15 May 2006 19:45:15 -0000</pubDate></item></channel></rss>